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Topic starter 04/05/2025 12:24 am
Just curious about this Pharmaqo Labs Androbolan 400 (Test/Mast/Primo) blend whilst planning my next cycle. All the reviews are claiming very bad PIP which is putting me off so was wondering if anyone has any first hand experience.
Been pinning test-e for a little while now with very minimal pip and whilst i appreciate this blend is more concentrated, I'm wondering if it really is as bad as people say, or is it possible they are pinning with to large needle gauge.
Any info would be great.
06/05/2025 7:30 am
Androbolan 400 can cause bad PIP due to high concentration. Using a smaller needle might help reduce it.
27/05/2025 3:33 pm
Hey I’ve just started this and I will say pip is on point with this one
23/06/2025 1:03 pm
Yeah pip was bad with this, I got around it by adding more primo to the solution, effectively changing the concentration levels, it was much better then
24/06/2025 1:48 pm
Yeah, PIP was bad — fixed it by adding more Primo to dilute the concentration. Much better after that.
21/07/2025 8:21 am
I’ve also been reading up on the PharmaQo Labs Androbolan 400 — the blend looks solid on paper, but yeah, the reports of bad PIP are hard to ignore. High-concentration mixes like this (Test/Mast/Primo at 400mg/ml) can definitely be tougher on the muscle, especially if the carrier oil is thick or the injection volume is on the higher side.
It’s possible that some users are pinning with a gauge that’s too large or injecting too fast, which can make it worse. I've seen a few people suggest warming the vial and splitting the dose across injection sites to ease the discomfort.
Would love to hear from anyone who’s run that specific PharmaQo Labs blend and had a smoother experience — maybe it's batch-specific or just a technique issue?
21/07/2025 8:25 am
I've run this, the pip is horrible. I've even diluted it but adding more primo crumb a standalone vial but it's still bad. I use a smaller needle, injected slowly and warned up the solution and none of it helped. I even injected subq but the lumps were massive.
21/07/2025 12:30 pm
I’ve actually run PharmaQo Labs Androbolan 400 and had a good experience with it. Yeah, it’s a high-concentration blend so you might feel a little more bite than plain Test-E, but nothing crazy if you pin it right.
I used a 25G needle, warmed the vial slightly before drawing, and injected slowly — barely any PIP at all. Some people go too fast or use a thick gauge and then blame the gear.
Honestly, quality was solid and results were on point. If you’ve been fine with Test-E, you’ll probably handle this just fine with the right pinning protocol.
21/07/2025 12:34 pm
Where did hit pin it to? I pinned into my delts. Did it slow over a minute to inject 1ml. But I also went subq and had really big lumps. Also warned it up
22/07/2025 3:31 pm
Don’t go subq with 1 mL oil → causes lumps. Stick to intramuscular (delts, glutes, quads).
Warm the oil + inject very slowly → you’re already doing this right.
Massage & move the muscle after → helps disperse the oil.
Rotate sites → don’t hit the same spot too often.
Small lumps are normal → they’ll go down in a few days unless red, hot, or very painful (infection).
22/07/2025 3:34 pm
Did all the but the pip pain was bad with the androgen 400. I've changed back to individual compounds and it's far better
23/07/2025 8:42 am
Yeah, Androgen 400 can cause bad PIP. Switching to separate compounds is definitely smoother.
