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Topic starter 15/05/2026 11:29 am
I'm a 53 year old male, lift 5 times a week, good health and looking to add some lean muscle without adding body fat.
Researching and would appreciate advice.
Looking for oral solutions that will get results but don't have big risks in terms of sides. Currently considering Anavar and LGD4033 as a stack together.
Would you advise this and would I get results without too many sides on a 4 to 6 week cycle? What dose would I take each at?
> How suppressive would it be and what PCT would I need?
Thank you
15/05/2026 11:36 am
Stacking Anavar and LGD-4033 is not recommended, especially at 53, due to high liver toxicity and severe cardiovascular strain. This combination will likely shut down your natural testosterone production, causing a "crash" that makes it difficult to maintain any gains once the cycle ends.
The Logistics:
Dose: If pursued, common doses are 20–40mg of Anavar and 5mg of LGD-4033 daily for 6 weeks.
Suppression: Highly suppressive; it will significantly drop your natural hormone levels.
PCT: You would need a 4-week SERM protocol (like Enclomiphene or Nolvadex).
Better Path: At 53, a medically supervised TRT protocol is far safer and more effective for sustainable lean muscle than an oral-only cycle.
Topic starter 15/05/2026 12:06 pm
15/05/2026 12:34 pm
If your test levels are within the normal range and you’re not considering TRT, Anavar alone may be a suitable option depending on your goals.
Topic starter 15/05/2026 4:29 pm
Thank you - is it the LGD that's more liver toxic?
If I ran anavar what daily dose and what pct is required please?
Also, been reading about 1 andro and 4 andro - are they alternative options?
Topic starter 18/05/2026 11:57 am
Been reading around this over the weekend and looking like a good cycle would be:
anavar at 20mg for 2 weeks then 30mg for 4-5weeks
Wait 2 days then start a PCT - do I need something like viogen performance pct or is a clomid or novaldex on it's own enough and what dose please?
Also would there be any benefit in running oral primobolan alongside the anavar or not really?
18/05/2026 1:17 pm
Anavar is less liver toxic than LGD, but running a 6–7 week cycle at 20–30mg still requires blood work and a dedicated PCT of Nolvadex (typically 20mg daily for 4 weeks) rather than an over-the-counter supplement, while adding oral Primobolan is not recommended as it would severely increase liver strain and cholesterol issues without providing any meaningful benefit.
Topic starter 18/05/2026 1:25 pm
Thank you so much - appreciate it - during PCT should I take anything else to help bring test back up?
18/05/2026 1:29 pm
Alongside your Nolvadex, adding a high-quality zinc and vitamin D3 supplement, maintaining a calorie surplus, and ensuring adequate sleep are the best natural ways to support your body's testosterone recovery.
Topic starter 18/05/2026 1:37 pm
Thank you!
18/05/2026 1:50 pm
no problem
28/05/2026 8:39 pm
Hi Michael im just looking to stack my Anavar or Winstrol with a peptide im looking gor some good advice uf possible thank you im a beginner to to put that in there to thx
